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In a room full of caring people, ACEs are high

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[Psychological abuse: 53% yes, 47% no.]

 

When Dr. Robert Anda began giving presentations about the CDC-Kaiser Permanente Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study after its first publication in 1998, he often asked people in the audience to anonymously fill out a 10-question ACE survey. Someone gathered all the paper polls, tallied the results, and Anda announced the average ACE score for the room. Generally speaking, he found that people in the helping professions had higher ACE scores than the 17,000 members of Kaiser San Diego who participated in the original ACE Study.

 

And so it was last week, when I did a presentation for the Prevent Child Abuse-Sonoma County Blue Ribbon Training in Windsor, CA. This time, the people in the room could see the results instantly. That's because I used a nifty online survey tool called PollEverywhere.com. Participants texted T or F to a number, and watched bar graphs move up and down on a large screen as their texts zipped away automagically to a cell phone tower, into the Internet, and onto a web page displayed on that large screen. The results were anonymous. 

 

The outcome was surprising to many of us. In nine out of the 10 questions, the responses were higher than the ACE Study. The answers to some questions, such as the one about psychological abuse at the top of this post, were significantly higher (53% compared with the ACE Study's 11%). Those attending the training included health, social services, criminal justice and human resource professionals, public officials, educators, community leaders, family members, caregivers and other interested individuals -- in other words, people in the serving professions, and, because of the event, people who obviously care about preventing childhood adversity.

 

Here are the ACE Study questionnaire results, and below that, the results of the approximately 120 people who participated in the poll.

 

I have two guesses as to why their scores were higher than the ACE Study scores. One, they're all working to prevent childhood adversity and to change systems so that they no longer traumatize already traumatized people, which may mean that their own experiences propelled them into this kind of work. Second, they're a generation or two removed from the original ACE Study participants, whose average age was 57 in 1995. ACEs comprise the nation's worst chronic epidemic; epidemics tend to become worse if there's no intervention. And we're now just barely beginning to intervene in this one.

 

Do you have any other ideas? 

[btw, the poll is closed and the results cleared, so texting T or F now will result in the message being scattered into cyberspace.]

  

 

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 Substance abuse: 51% yes, 49% no.

 

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 Parental sep/divorce: 46% yes, 54% no.

 

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 Mental illness: 47% yes, 53% no.

 

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 Battered mother: 16% yes, 84% no.

 

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 Criminal behavior: 9% yes, 91% no.

 

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Physical abuse: 23% yes, 77% no. 

 

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 Sexual abuse: 28% yes, 72% no.

 

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 Emotional neglect: 25% yes, 75% no.

 

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 Physical neglect: 12% yes, 88% no. 

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So for anyone wanting to use this... I called the company... you can have as many questions as you want in a poll.... so even with 10 or 50 questions for the free pole there can be 25 responses for every question not 25 divided by the number of questions or for about 20 dollars per month (you must subscribe month to  month but if you cancel before the end of the month you can have 50 responses per each individual question- for larger audiences) and pay 20 dollars if you are only doing one presentation where you would use this for a larger audience.  --- I hope I make sense....

 

They are very nice and helpful on the phone.... 1-800-388-2039

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This is really interesting Jane and I guess it shouldn't be surprising but it did surprise me that the numbers are as high as they are.

It makes me wonder about the general stats and your comment about epidemics. I also wondered in a group that knows what childhood adversity is and probably identifies it accurately there may be less minimizing or denial in answering questions about abuse and neglect. Thanks for sharing the information. 

And how powerful to have a shared group experience taking the test and knowledge about the group as a whole without anyone having to reveal personal stuff. How powerful even that process can be for people who might still think, "There aren't many or any others" - although I guess that's not a widely held belief for people doing this work or at a conference about Child Abuse Prevention 

Cissy

Tina,
 
I use a survey tool called Constant Contact.  It's pretty straight forward and you can have a survey go for as long as you desire. 
 
Dale
 
 
Originally Posted by Tina Marie Hahn, MD:

I agree also very cool. I wondered, under emotional abuse could you edit to put in bold the numbered percentages. I can pretty much guess from the graph but thought the actual numbers would be nice (53 vs 47).  

 

This increased ACEs does not surprise me. As you stated this is a group of very concerned people and possibly as the ACE study shows as the number of ACEs increases people die.  This is probably a younger group of folks. 

 

I am going to figure out how to use this poll too. We have our star advertiser ACE questionnaire ready to screen for informal level of regional ACEs (we set it up with the Child Abuse and Neglect team).  We put in a link to a survey monkey but I wonder if this link could be used too our survey kept open for a month? Is that possible? Thanks

 

I checked out the site. It looks like it's only for real time presentations. However, have access to knowledge of resources... is there something similar that you know of that could be used over a longer period of time for a survey? Thanks Tina

 

I agree also very cool. I wondered, under emotional abuse could you edit to put in bold the numbered percentages. I can pretty much guess from the graph but thought the actual numbers would be nice (53 vs 47).  

 

This increased ACEs does not surprise me. As you stated this is a group of very concerned people and possibly as the ACE study shows as the number of ACEs increases people die.  This is probably a younger group of folks. 

 

I am going to figure out how to use this poll too. We have our star advertiser ACE questionnaire ready to screen for informal level of regional ACEs (we set it up with the Child Abuse and Neglect team).  We put in a link to a survey monkey but I wonder if this link could be used too our survey kept open for a month? Is that possible? Thanks

 

I checked out the site. It looks like it's only for real time presentations. However, have access to knowledge of resources... is there something similar that you know of that could be used over a longer period of time for a survey? Thanks Tina

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